Likewise, Bowser will find it harder to control his enemy if he has taken a lot of damage. Nevertheless, here are the results. Same deal if you mapped your second control stick to "special move" or "attack". Flying Slam Grabs the opponent, flips into the air, & crushes them. Melee?! Giga Bowser is the true final boss of Adventure mode in Super Smash Bros. Melee, and Bowser's Final Smash in all further Super Smash Bros. games. There is much to be said about using tape, or even presetting inputs (when you hold a direction down before plugging in a controller). It's basically only use this move if you and your opponent want to go the same way. Flying Slam Grabs an opponent, jumps with them into the air and backflips before belly-to-belly suplexing them onto the ground, causing an explosion effect Up Special Whirling Fortress Withdraws into his shell and spins around rapidly Down Special Bowser Bomb A ground pound Final Smash Giga Bowser Punch Shoulder Charge Spike shoot Shoots out spikes from his shell that immediately grow back Body Slam Bowser jumps high up into the air and slams down, creating a shock wave Any person on the ground that is hit by the shock wave will be temporarily paralyzed Additionally, if another opponent is in the way of Bowser as he plummets to the ground, they will be also dealt 7% damage with weak knockback. But. If you think they’re all going to be the same as they have been, it’ll be rough for you. You can only be Giga Bowser for a short time though, so you’d better take your enemies out while you can. If he has more damage or lacks port priority, the opponent will win the match instead. Ultimate Edition, Nintendo Super Smash Bros. When the victim has 10% more damage than Bowser, they lose about 50% of their control. And even more than that when you factor in how Bowser dashes forward with victim in hand, before stopping to jump. Don't want to say I told ya so. Heh heh... Yeah, you keep thinking that. I hope to hell they fix Bowsercide in the next patch. Ultimate Edition, Nintendo Super Smash Bros. When both characters have the same percentage, Bowser loses about 60% of his control. That’s not nice! Mashing the C-stick would be hard to recreate without a second person, but not impossible. To be honest, there are a LOT of characters that offer a slightly different flavour this time round. When the victim has 50% more damage than Bowser, they will land straight down. Bowser will spit fire from his mouth and will continue to do so until the flames die out. In other words, when the opponent is grabbed 120% by a 0% Bowser with Flying Slam, they literally can't take the move in either direction. But when Bowser has the damage lead on the opponent, the effect is completely detracting the opponents control from its maximum state. This move allows Bowser to grab an opponent, then leap into the air and fall back to the ground with Bowser on top of them. But the opponent still has the ability to recover to the ledge after YOU die. In general, Bowser will have far less control over his own attack than the victim does, unless he has a significant percentage lead. go premium to hide all advertisements and this notice. Nothing was made up. This is an incredible find. The effectiveness of this resistance depends on the damage gauge.

You'd have to mash inhumanely fast in order to reach the full distance through C-stick mashing alone. Two aspects I thought I had disproven. Ultimate, GameCube Controller Super Smash Bros. Enemies who are in the flames will take damage as long as they stay inside the flames so they have no other option but to run away. But in testing the results of C-stick mashing, it is no longer. You may now exit this discussion. Thus, the opponent will always be KOed first. When Bowser has 100% more damage than the victim, his inputs seem to have no impact at all. It is true. When the victim has 70% more damage than Bowser, they will land straight down. Welp, I'm responsible for the misunderstanding too. Can you see now why I neglected to bring up this famous story in the OP? Keep in mind that while you … What happened? If mashing the C stick yields any kind of difference it is rather insignificant.

I'd love to set up a testing session with another person to help me confirm what little I understand. Why was I right in thinking this discussion would be taken off the rails so quickly? If you're grabbed by Ganon and he does the suicide choke he wins, but if you grab him and flying slam him off the ledge....he wins too? It will cut off your characters control by a considerable amount if you mash in the direction opposite of where you're trying to move primarily, and I can't see how that might benefit you. I've been over my story a ton. I just really want this data. This is Bowser’s megamonster move: the Flying Slam! The better control is nice but as it stands the hitbox to land is still complete ass. I want to know what's up with that, and that's why I posted about that. The short answer is that mashing Smash commands cannot add to Bowser control, or the victims.

I've done a flying slam on ROB and he can fly right up and recover while I die. I'd love to set up a testing session with another person to help me confirm what little I understand.

)and body-slam them into the ground for 18% damage. I just want my question answered, regardless of what your opinion about me or Chris is. Speaking of Bowser, Whirling Fortress was merged with Flying Slam. Flying Slam (ダイビングプレス) is Bowser's and Giga Bowser’s side special move in Super Smash Flash 2. We ultimately end up on our last stock, with me at about 30% and Nyani at about 130%. So just to clarify, if I want to go right and my opponent wants to go left. First, he grabs.....then he jumps... SLLAAAMMO! Do stages effect the amount of control the characters have? @. This site uses cookies. His Mario barely beat me game one. So if you want to move right, mash the C-stick right. Bowser also can't control the move by holding C-stick, but he can control through mashing, and the speed of mashing effects it. Because he made a poor move (shielding) and I got punished for it. The biggest and the heaviest of fighters, Bowser has a slightly different flavour this time round! That's precisely the opposite of what I said. Bowser launching Tails after landing with Flying Slam. I recall someone mentioning that using a C-stick to mash a direction might have favorable effects. You must log in or register to reply here. Does anyone know who would be the people to e-mail to regarding this problem with side-B in Nintendo's Dev team?

My only question is if there's a difference with Aerial Klaw or not. I did not ever call Zigsta a liar, I only asked for proof if you wanted a part in this discussion. I unplugged my controller and said "good game" even though my opponent AND his friends were laughing at me. What, you think just because he’s huge, you can needle him with lots of little attacks and keep him off-balance? If he has port priority and equal damage, Sudden Death will occur. And sometimes it's failing to have any effect at all. Nintendo seems to be run by moonmen, so I can't say. Then game two he shield in the middle of the stage, and I Klaw him when he's at 140% and I'm at 20%. When both characters have the same percentage, Bowser will lose about 20% of his control. On the other hand, if the swipe is performed when the opponent is close to Bowser, he will instead grab them and leap into the air to perform a flying suplex that can be controlled slightly in whatever direction is desired. Patch 1.06 gave Bowser's Flying Slam (but not Dash Slam) much more control. By what Chris said, he had a sizeable lead, and did not aim to go offstage with the move at all. Try not to use this move at the wrong time!

He's the eternal archenemy of Mario. Just remember that Bowser mashing C-stick will make him exert the added control in the direction you're mashing. GameCube Controller Super Smash Bros. McLeodGaming Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Pausing the game after you have initiated the grab and then picking up the controllers and mashing the C-sticks in opposite directions to see who has control would work. Any bets on what'll happen with this once the patch hits? Ultimate Edition Pro Controller - Switch, a Nintendo Switch Super Smash Bros. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. But the damage difference is not consistent depending on whether Bowser is attempting to move in the direction he was facing, or opposite that direction. Time to retest all of this, buddy: Bowser now has TONS more control over it! As his name suggests, he is a gigantic version of Bowser, and was created as a throwback to the older "aggressive" look of Bowser from the pre-Super Mario 64 games. Ultimate Edition - Switch. But the opponent still has the ability to recover to the ledge after YOU die. I'm trying to refine my testing method, but it's exceptionally hard to do with my hands alone. This is absolutely true of specific stages, including too many omega stages to keep track of. You can even grab someone in mid-air, making this move a real mean one. Bowser attempts to fulfill his own ambitions by leading his minions to attack the Mushroom Kingdom. You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor.

When both characters have the same percentage. I honestly don't know what to say. This is certainly the more questionable one. The way Bowser scratches the opponent at a distance is similar to his side special move from. You can control Giga Bowser from Super Smash Bros. When using the move, Bowser performs a quick swipe forward with his claw. ...and you can get a combination hit as you drop! I will update the OP with this info. Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! It appears that you are using ad block :'(. It's a real shame. But please don’t worry.

The lack of control Bowser has on Klaw is dumb. Depending on the distance, Bowser may simply scratch the opponent if they are located far away from him, launching the opponent with moderate vertical knockback and dealing 7% damage. whether or not the opponent can attempt a recovery on a successful bowsercide. I brought up the second suicide instance because I was trying to figure out where that fit in the data that you found.

The side special slot is populated by new move, Skateboarding Bowser, which is aptly named. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! Flying Slam 18%: Bowser's can grab his opponents at any time (even in the air! Stop! Bowser keeps his full range of control as if they were making no inputs. Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

When Bowser has 70% more damage than the victim, his inputs seem to have no impact at all. https://mcleodgaming.fandom.com/wiki/Flying_Slam?oldid=168142. When Bowser lands, he quickly deals 7% damage on the opponent and at the time they get launched horizontally, they receive another 7%, leading to a total of 14% of damage, as well as strong forward knockback. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community! Flying Slam (ダイビングプレス) is Bowser's and Giga Bowser’s side special move in Super Smash Flash 2. In the case where both players have one stock remaining, Bowser will win the match assuming he has less damage and port priority. Woops! He looks more ferocious, with a larger body, a spikier scaled shell, more … Bowser plummeting downward with Tails using Flying Slam.

Mashing in the direction the victim chooses adds to their control, not Bowser's. When Bowser has 80% more damage than the victim, his inputs seem to have no impact at all.

When the victim has 130% more damage than Bowser, they will lose about half of their control. Don’t attack me when I’m helpless! I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I really hate this move. When the victim has 100% more damage than Bowser, they will lose about half of their control. Bowser’s down special move, the Bowser Bomb, is really powerful, but also leaves him really open. This needs a 10 second cool down once you have launched this attack.

When both characters have the same percentage, the victim loses about 35% of their control.