It shows someone suffering when he lets society have its way with him, and freed when he has his way with society. Sorry, this post was removed by Reddit's spam filters.
When he says he feels invisible, it’s clear why: he’s the kind of person people look away from on the street, out of apathy or active discomfort.
Ultimate. And then he escapes it all, by learning not to care — not about how or whether other people see him, not about whether he hurts or frightens or kills them, not about whether his final-act manifesto makes any sort of coherent sense. He’s painfully awkward, the kind of twitchy, social incompetence people shy away from in public because his erratic behavior feels like it could turn dangerous — or at least uncomfortable for them. While working as a sign-twirler, Arthur is randomly beaten by a handful of kids, who steal his sign and then break it over his head.
Phillips has made it clear that he doesn’t believe Joker is anything as small and dismissible as a mere comic-book movie. It’s easy for viewers to empathize with his desire to be loved, without necessarily loving him. Phillips delivers that message in a self-congratulatory way, largely by setting the film in a world where Arthur has no choice but violence, and no escape but madness. By Sam Skopp Aug 05, 2019 MKLeo is essentially the consensus pick for best Smash Ultimate player in the world right now. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ultimate. Todd Phillips’ standalone supervillain origin story Joker is arriving in theaters amid so much controversy and concern about the potential for copycat violence that the debate has largely overwhelmed the film itself. Arthur starts with close to nothing, and loses it all incrementally, in ways designed to hurt empathetic viewers. Love it or hate it, the Joker movie presents a tempting fantasy, You can get a refurbished Sonos Playbar for $120 off at Best Buy, Amazon’s Prime Day kicks off on October 13th, You can get big discounts on the new ball-shaped Amazon Echo and Echo Dot, More early Prime Day 2020 deals have come to the surface, Get a year of PlayStation Plus for half off before the PS5 comes out, PS5 owners will get digital access to several PS4 games, Samsung’s new Galaxy Buds Live wireless earbuds are $35 off at Woot, Amazon Prime members check out for $135, $145 for everyone else, Sign up for the newsletter. More posts from the Joker_Mains community. That may not fully motivate him, but it’s meant as a message for the segment of the audience that feels closest to Arthur, those who feel most unseen and unloved: plenty of people agree with you that the world is unfair and ugly, and if you did something about it, they’d back your play. His boss not only doesn’t believe his story, he demands Arthur pay for the missing sign. Because Joker does play — not just to its most put-upon, angry, repressed viewers — but to the entire audience’s darkest hearts.
Joker may make some people who feel marginalized feel more seen and more powerful, and they may act out in response. r/Joker_Mains A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. And then he models a way to not be harmless anymore. Come here to find and post for your love of Joker, tips and tricks, fun details, and more. There are some ugly, self-serving messages in the movie, which is incongruously bent on creating sympathy for Batman’s worst enemy and one of DC Comics’ most notoriously callous mass murderers and atrocity architects. But it does represent a horrifying form of invitation — not just a call to sympathize with the devil, but a full-blown justification for the hell he creates. He’s portrayed as a kind of dark truth-teller because he’s learned that the world is a joke and nothing matters. Come here to find and post for your love of Joker, tips and tricks …
Joker is a 2019 American psychological thriller film directed and produced by Todd Phillips, who co-wrote the screenplay with Scott Silver. He’s devoted to his sick mother Penny (Frances Conroy), who’s encouraged him to see himself as a joyous light in the world, bringing laughter to the people. A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. He’s a relatable kind of villain, harmless and sad — not an Everyman, but an audience avatar for the downtrodden.
r/Joker_Mains A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. It’s a tempting fantasy, crafted with utter conviction. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The dramatic ironies and injustices compound throughout the film, until it’s clear that Arthur isn’t paranoid, the world really is out to get him.
Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose. Everything about the storytelling — the ominous, booming score; the gritty darkness; the invasive sound design — is designed to be oppressive, and to push the audience toward Arthur’s point of view as the primary victim of all the oppression. The problem is that he isn’t particularly funny. But love it or hate it, the film does spin up a tempting fantasy of persecution and relief, of embracing nihilism as a means of complete escape from a terrible world.
Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. “I just don’t want to feel so bad anymore,” Arthur says plaintively at one point. It’s been fascinating to watch the discussion around the movie shift from “Do we really need another Joker story so soon after Suicide Squad?” to “Is Joker full of dangerous ideas that will spur its worst fans to murder?” The initial worries around Joker assumed the movie would be unnecessary, its impact negligible. The current questions ascribe it with too much importance, as if it might incite full-blown anarchy just by existing. Come here to find and post for your love of Joker, tips and tricks, fun details, and more. Joaquin Phoenix stars as the man who becomes Joker after a harrowing series of experiences designed to make audiences empathize with him … More posts from the Joker_Mains community. By dismissing the world as imbalanced at best, outright malicious at worst, Phillips is enabling his viewers’ worst and most destructive impulses. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Phillips and cinematographer Lawrence Sher (who also DP’d for all three of Phillips’ Hangover movies) give the film a sickeningly grungy, underlit, David Fincher-esque look, especially in Arthur’s squalid home. That’s a fairly adolescent outlook, which Phillips embraces in the same persecution-complex spirit that recently led him to complain that he had to make Joker because the world is now too sensitive and woke for his previous brand of destructive-bro comedy. But Joker would probably be raising much less social concern if it wasn’t such a technically compelling movie, if its final moments weren’t so outsized and joyous and purposefully insane.
Press J to jump to the feed. Come here to find and post for your love of Joker, tips and tricks, fun details, and more.
Viewers who aren’t already inclined to see humanity as a seething cesspit may not resonate with that level of cynicism.
MKLeo is essentially the best Smash Ultimate player in the world after EVO 2019, and he mains Joker from the Persona series.
And then he takes violent, irrevocable action. That tension between sympathy and revulsion is one of the most honest things about Joker, which mostly goes out of its way to make the world awful. Arthur is mentally ill and coping via meds and court-ordered therapy, which don’t offer comfort or represent caring. As usual in a case where people leap to extremes, the truth is somewhere in the middle. But while his film is grimmer and more harrowing than anything in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it’s offering up a fantasy just as clearly as any superhero wish-fulfillment power trip: the fantasy of being a hero to some, of going from powerlessness to power, of being feared and beloved at the same time. That doesn’t necessarily make Joker a call to action, or an invitation to real-life violence. It’s a persecution complex turned into a wish-fulfillment power trip. The film, based on DC Comics characters, stars Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker and provides a possible origin story for the character. Ultimate. Press J to jump to the feed. r/Joker_Mains: A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. Phillips and co-writer Scott Silver follow in the footsteps of Joel Schumacher’s 1993 drama Falling Down in portraying the world as a cartoonishly dark and uncaring place, an almost comically vile carnival where the protagonist can’t find a hint of comfort or relief. Many critics and early viewers have responded to Joker with loathing, because that fantasy is so selfish and solipsistic.
Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/Joker_Mains. But to viewers who feel as abused and overlooked as Arthur Fleck, or even who harbor smaller, more rational resentments about society, Joker is a deliberate and fine-tuned provocation and promise: you aren’t alone, the people you hate really are awful, and it would be okay to act against them in any way you want. Reddit's automated bots frequently filter posts it thinks might be spam. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The story hurts and harms him, but Phillips suggests in the end that everything he went through was necessary to bring him the power and recognition he deserves.
Like Falling Down — and Martin Scorsese’s Taxi Driver, which Phillips openly emulates and references — Joker suggests that when the leading man loses his mind, it’s an understandable, even natural reaction to an equally mad world.
When he says he feels invisible, it’s clear why: he’s the kind of person people look away from on the street, out of apathy or active discomfort.
Ultimate. And then he escapes it all, by learning not to care — not about how or whether other people see him, not about whether he hurts or frightens or kills them, not about whether his final-act manifesto makes any sort of coherent sense. He’s painfully awkward, the kind of twitchy, social incompetence people shy away from in public because his erratic behavior feels like it could turn dangerous — or at least uncomfortable for them. While working as a sign-twirler, Arthur is randomly beaten by a handful of kids, who steal his sign and then break it over his head.
Phillips has made it clear that he doesn’t believe Joker is anything as small and dismissible as a mere comic-book movie. It’s easy for viewers to empathize with his desire to be loved, without necessarily loving him. Phillips delivers that message in a self-congratulatory way, largely by setting the film in a world where Arthur has no choice but violence, and no escape but madness. By Sam Skopp Aug 05, 2019 MKLeo is essentially the consensus pick for best Smash Ultimate player in the world right now. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ultimate. Todd Phillips’ standalone supervillain origin story Joker is arriving in theaters amid so much controversy and concern about the potential for copycat violence that the debate has largely overwhelmed the film itself. Arthur starts with close to nothing, and loses it all incrementally, in ways designed to hurt empathetic viewers. Love it or hate it, the Joker movie presents a tempting fantasy, You can get a refurbished Sonos Playbar for $120 off at Best Buy, Amazon’s Prime Day kicks off on October 13th, You can get big discounts on the new ball-shaped Amazon Echo and Echo Dot, More early Prime Day 2020 deals have come to the surface, Get a year of PlayStation Plus for half off before the PS5 comes out, PS5 owners will get digital access to several PS4 games, Samsung’s new Galaxy Buds Live wireless earbuds are $35 off at Woot, Amazon Prime members check out for $135, $145 for everyone else, Sign up for the newsletter. More posts from the Joker_Mains community. That may not fully motivate him, but it’s meant as a message for the segment of the audience that feels closest to Arthur, those who feel most unseen and unloved: plenty of people agree with you that the world is unfair and ugly, and if you did something about it, they’d back your play. His boss not only doesn’t believe his story, he demands Arthur pay for the missing sign. Because Joker does play — not just to its most put-upon, angry, repressed viewers — but to the entire audience’s darkest hearts.
Joker may make some people who feel marginalized feel more seen and more powerful, and they may act out in response. r/Joker_Mains A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. And then he models a way to not be harmless anymore. Come here to find and post for your love of Joker, tips and tricks, fun details, and more. There are some ugly, self-serving messages in the movie, which is incongruously bent on creating sympathy for Batman’s worst enemy and one of DC Comics’ most notoriously callous mass murderers and atrocity architects. But it does represent a horrifying form of invitation — not just a call to sympathize with the devil, but a full-blown justification for the hell he creates. He’s portrayed as a kind of dark truth-teller because he’s learned that the world is a joke and nothing matters. Come here to find and post for your love of Joker, tips and tricks …
Joker is a 2019 American psychological thriller film directed and produced by Todd Phillips, who co-wrote the screenplay with Scott Silver. He’s devoted to his sick mother Penny (Frances Conroy), who’s encouraged him to see himself as a joyous light in the world, bringing laughter to the people. A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. He’s a relatable kind of villain, harmless and sad — not an Everyman, but an audience avatar for the downtrodden.
r/Joker_Mains A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. It’s a tempting fantasy, crafted with utter conviction. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The dramatic ironies and injustices compound throughout the film, until it’s clear that Arthur isn’t paranoid, the world really is out to get him.
Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose. Everything about the storytelling — the ominous, booming score; the gritty darkness; the invasive sound design — is designed to be oppressive, and to push the audience toward Arthur’s point of view as the primary victim of all the oppression. The problem is that he isn’t particularly funny. But love it or hate it, the film does spin up a tempting fantasy of persecution and relief, of embracing nihilism as a means of complete escape from a terrible world.
Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. “I just don’t want to feel so bad anymore,” Arthur says plaintively at one point. It’s been fascinating to watch the discussion around the movie shift from “Do we really need another Joker story so soon after Suicide Squad?” to “Is Joker full of dangerous ideas that will spur its worst fans to murder?” The initial worries around Joker assumed the movie would be unnecessary, its impact negligible. The current questions ascribe it with too much importance, as if it might incite full-blown anarchy just by existing. Come here to find and post for your love of Joker, tips and tricks, fun details, and more. Joaquin Phoenix stars as the man who becomes Joker after a harrowing series of experiences designed to make audiences empathize with him … More posts from the Joker_Mains community. By dismissing the world as imbalanced at best, outright malicious at worst, Phillips is enabling his viewers’ worst and most destructive impulses. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Phillips and cinematographer Lawrence Sher (who also DP’d for all three of Phillips’ Hangover movies) give the film a sickeningly grungy, underlit, David Fincher-esque look, especially in Arthur’s squalid home. That’s a fairly adolescent outlook, which Phillips embraces in the same persecution-complex spirit that recently led him to complain that he had to make Joker because the world is now too sensitive and woke for his previous brand of destructive-bro comedy. But Joker would probably be raising much less social concern if it wasn’t such a technically compelling movie, if its final moments weren’t so outsized and joyous and purposefully insane.
Press J to jump to the feed. Come here to find and post for your love of Joker, tips and tricks, fun details, and more.
Viewers who aren’t already inclined to see humanity as a seething cesspit may not resonate with that level of cynicism.
MKLeo is essentially the best Smash Ultimate player in the world after EVO 2019, and he mains Joker from the Persona series.
And then he takes violent, irrevocable action. That tension between sympathy and revulsion is one of the most honest things about Joker, which mostly goes out of its way to make the world awful. Arthur is mentally ill and coping via meds and court-ordered therapy, which don’t offer comfort or represent caring. As usual in a case where people leap to extremes, the truth is somewhere in the middle. But while his film is grimmer and more harrowing than anything in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it’s offering up a fantasy just as clearly as any superhero wish-fulfillment power trip: the fantasy of being a hero to some, of going from powerlessness to power, of being feared and beloved at the same time. That doesn’t necessarily make Joker a call to action, or an invitation to real-life violence. It’s a persecution complex turned into a wish-fulfillment power trip. The film, based on DC Comics characters, stars Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker and provides a possible origin story for the character. Ultimate. Press J to jump to the feed. r/Joker_Mains: A subreddit dedicated to Joker for Super Smash Bros. Phillips and co-writer Scott Silver follow in the footsteps of Joel Schumacher’s 1993 drama Falling Down in portraying the world as a cartoonishly dark and uncaring place, an almost comically vile carnival where the protagonist can’t find a hint of comfort or relief. Many critics and early viewers have responded to Joker with loathing, because that fantasy is so selfish and solipsistic.
Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/Joker_Mains. But to viewers who feel as abused and overlooked as Arthur Fleck, or even who harbor smaller, more rational resentments about society, Joker is a deliberate and fine-tuned provocation and promise: you aren’t alone, the people you hate really are awful, and it would be okay to act against them in any way you want. Reddit's automated bots frequently filter posts it thinks might be spam. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The story hurts and harms him, but Phillips suggests in the end that everything he went through was necessary to bring him the power and recognition he deserves.
Like Falling Down — and Martin Scorsese’s Taxi Driver, which Phillips openly emulates and references — Joker suggests that when the leading man loses his mind, it’s an understandable, even natural reaction to an equally mad world.